1. If memory serves, some where in A&M's book there a similar drawing with the skis going though even, staggered, even, etc and through the turns, similar to what you tried to depict with Orange Skis drawn in but with the skis even at the fall in, not at the outside of the curve as you had drawn (and which can't be the case as I laid out).blue_footed_boobie wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 12:58 am[1]After posting, I purchased Allen and Mike’s telemark tips, and their “patience turn” tip really explained it for me. [2]-You just release your edges & let your skis find the fall line. When you’re in the fall line, drop down and edge.
[3] I had thought that the telemark turn MUST be done by dropping into the telemark position. In other words, I thought the stance made the turn. Turns out, just like alpine, you steer with your knees and hips and upper body positioning and through edge control.
2. I don't follow what you are saying there. I reads like you saying if you just release your edges (slipping) the skis will magically "find the fall line" (not sure even what you mean by that either), but be sure that if you are turning, that is by definition an Acceleration (A is a change in Velocity; Velocity is Speed AND Direction) because you're direction (where the skis are pointed) is constantly changing, thus there has to be a force constantly acting upon the skis. What it "feels" or "seems" like to the brain doesn't always correlate with reality (i.e. optical illusions, flight simulators). You don't need to understand the physics to do it, yet just because you can do it doesn't mean you understand the physics.
For example, look at this JIF and 10sec from the timestamp of these two YT vids:
(Source thread https://telemarktalk.com/viewtopic.php? ... 895#p57894 )
(Source thread https://telemarktalk.com/viewtopic.php? ... 934#p60646 )
The above vids (and this one) each as "their way" of doing flat 360 spins, some saying you have to turn your upper body, some not, and this kind of body "noise" can make hard to tell what actually controls and what is extraneous (fact: you can let your body rotate with the skis, ahead, or behind the rotation). Sidenote: I figured out Flat 360s on my own when first learning when I'd keep snowplowing a turn to U-turn going uphill, stopped, then started sliding/skiing backwards to quickly reverse-snowplowed to get perpendicular to the fall line, then was "Hmm..." and started piecing it together until I had 360 with snowplow, then parallel, still working on doing it on one ski though snowboarders can with one "fat" ski.
Likewise one can use edge-control to move in all these directions without turning, that is, while keeping your skis pointed the same direction (to the left) the whole time.
Remember in Alpine skiing how you need to put (most of) your weight on the ski on the outside of the turn?
Behold the Royal Christie.
