Altai Tao
- Krummholz
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- Location: Middle Park, CO
- Ski style: Snowshoe rut of death on trails, or face plant powder.
- Favorite Skis: Fischer SB-98, Rossi Alpineer 86, Fischer Europa 99, Altai Hok, Asnes USGI
- Favorite boots: Fischer Transnordic 75, Alico Arctic 75
- Occupation: Transnordic Boot molder
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Re: Altai Tao
@Lhartley
The Altai Tao is now available on the US Store, https://us-store.altaiskis.com/product/ ... r-2024-25/
The Cad Store shows out of stock.
I kind of like the “Hunter on skis and Ibex” graphic on the tail.
Specifications:
Length – 165 cm.
Dimensions – 121-100-118
Weight – 5 lb. 3 oz.
Integrated climbing skin
Stainless inserts for 3 hole bindings
Binding retention plate
Wood core/Steel Edges
Slight rockered tip and tail
Price: $289.95
The Altai Tao is now available on the US Store, https://us-store.altaiskis.com/product/ ... r-2024-25/
The Cad Store shows out of stock.
I kind of like the “Hunter on skis and Ibex” graphic on the tail.
Specifications:
Length – 165 cm.
Dimensions – 121-100-118
Weight – 5 lb. 3 oz.
Integrated climbing skin
Stainless inserts for 3 hole bindings
Binding retention plate
Wood core/Steel Edges
Slight rockered tip and tail
Price: $289.95
Free Heeler - As in Free Spirit and Free Beer. No $700 pass! No plastic boots! And No Fkn Merlot!
- lilcliffy
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- Ski style: backcountry Nordic ski touring
- Favorite Skis: Asnes Ingstad, Combat Nato, Amundsen, Rabb 68; Altai Kom
- Favorite boots: Alpina Alaska BC; Lundhags Expedition; Alfa Skaget XP; Scarpa T4
- Occupation: Forestry Professional
Instructor at Maritime College of Forest Technology
Husband, father, farmer and logger
Re: Altai Tao
Beautiful and very cool ski-
I don't know if I completely get it though...
A turnier and longer Hok?
I don't know if I completely get it though...
A turnier and longer Hok?
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
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Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
- Krummholz
- Posts: 386
- Joined: Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:31 pm
- Location: Middle Park, CO
- Ski style: Snowshoe rut of death on trails, or face plant powder.
- Favorite Skis: Fischer SB-98, Rossi Alpineer 86, Fischer Europa 99, Altai Hok, Asnes USGI
- Favorite boots: Fischer Transnordic 75, Alico Arctic 75
- Occupation: Transnordic Boot molder
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Re: Altai Tao
@lilcliffy
Yes, a longer and turnier Hok, with some side cut, so closer to a downhill ski, but not quite a Kom. It is built like a Hok, ie same materials.
First took them out skinning through some deep powder, and moved along pretty easily until the slope got to 15 - 20 deg or so and had to switch to doing steps. Then hit a crusty snowmobile track and I was zipping along. Going down in powder, 10 deg slope took mostly striding to keep going. 15 - 20 deg was slow and steady, but that was fine as I was in tight trees. Going down a snowmobile track was fast. On a crusty south facing 10-15 deg slope got going enough to make some turns.
Yes, a longer and turnier Hok, with some side cut, so closer to a downhill ski, but not quite a Kom. It is built like a Hok, ie same materials.
First took them out skinning through some deep powder, and moved along pretty easily until the slope got to 15 - 20 deg or so and had to switch to doing steps. Then hit a crusty snowmobile track and I was zipping along. Going down in powder, 10 deg slope took mostly striding to keep going. 15 - 20 deg was slow and steady, but that was fine as I was in tight trees. Going down a snowmobile track was fast. On a crusty south facing 10-15 deg slope got going enough to make some turns.
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Re: Altai Tao
Are the Taos any faster on a snowmobile track compared to the Hoks?
- lilcliffy
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- Ski style: backcountry Nordic ski touring
- Favorite Skis: Asnes Ingstad, Combat Nato, Amundsen, Rabb 68; Altai Kom
- Favorite boots: Alpina Alaska BC; Lundhags Expedition; Alfa Skaget XP; Scarpa T4
- Occupation: Forestry Professional
Instructor at Maritime College of Forest Technology
Husband, father, farmer and logger
Re: Altai Tao
Cool ski- great to have so many options!!
Looks like I would have more fun on the Tao- vs the Hok- as a downhill ski-
but, the Toa would not replace the Hok as a work/field/bush ski for me, as it is not avaialble in shorter more manoverable lengh for dense forest...
So- to me- the Toa seems more akin to the Kom than the Hok- an option for those that would rather an integrated skin than a scaled base.
Looks like I would have more fun on the Tao- vs the Hok- as a downhill ski-
but, the Toa would not replace the Hok as a work/field/bush ski for me, as it is not avaialble in shorter more manoverable lengh for dense forest...
So- to me- the Toa seems more akin to the Kom than the Hok- an option for those that would rather an integrated skin than a scaled base.
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
- Krummholz
- Posts: 386
- Joined: Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:31 pm
- Location: Middle Park, CO
- Ski style: Snowshoe rut of death on trails, or face plant powder.
- Favorite Skis: Fischer SB-98, Rossi Alpineer 86, Fischer Europa 99, Altai Hok, Asnes USGI
- Favorite boots: Fischer Transnordic 75, Alico Arctic 75
- Occupation: Transnordic Boot molder
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Re: Altai Tao
It depends on if you have the 125, or the 145, like mine. The Tao is 165 and has a little more glide due to the longer black lengths. It would be a big improvement over the 125. The big improvement of the Tao is sidecut and rocker. The Hok has zero. I have found the skin is better on ice/crust than a scaled ski. No difference in powder. The skin does have more drag on the down than a scaled ski.
I snuck off an hour before work to do a few laps on this right-of-way just outside town. It just snowed 8” for a total of about 20” of powder. I could have used another 5 deg of slope to keep a constant speed. I had to use a packed down section to get the speed up before cutting into the powder. So far a fun ski for doing laps. Worked 6 days straight over the holidays, hope to get more snow time after this weekend.
I snuck off an hour before work to do a few laps on this right-of-way just outside town. It just snowed 8” for a total of about 20” of powder. I could have used another 5 deg of slope to keep a constant speed. I had to use a packed down section to get the speed up before cutting into the powder. So far a fun ski for doing laps. Worked 6 days straight over the holidays, hope to get more snow time after this weekend.
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- lilcliffy
- Posts: 4218
- Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:20 pm
- Location: Stanley, New Brunswick, Canada
- Ski style: backcountry Nordic ski touring
- Favorite Skis: Asnes Ingstad, Combat Nato, Amundsen, Rabb 68; Altai Kom
- Favorite boots: Alpina Alaska BC; Lundhags Expedition; Alfa Skaget XP; Scarpa T4
- Occupation: Forestry Professional
Instructor at Maritime College of Forest Technology
Husband, father, farmer and logger
Re: Altai Tao
@Krummholz
Please forgive me if I missed this in this thread-
what boot are you using with the Tao?
Also- you have NNNBC on the Hok? What BC boot?
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For reference, I have the 145 Hok- no interest in the 125.
Please forgive me if I missed this in this thread-
what boot are you using with the Tao?
Also- you have NNNBC on the Hok? What BC boot?
......
For reference, I have the 145 Hok- no interest in the 125.
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
- Inspiredcapers
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Re: Altai Tao
I already have too many skis, I already have too many skis…
- riel
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Re: Altai Tao
Are you sure?Inspiredcapers wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2025 4:03 pmI already have too many skis, I already have too many skis…
How can you be sure?
Can you think of any way to experimentally verify your hypothesis?