Musk Ox's WONDERFUL WORLD OF SNOW: SNOWFACTS

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Re: Musk Ox's WONDERFUL WORLD OF SNOW: SNOWFACTS

Post by Jurassien » Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:07 am

CwmRaider wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2023 8:38 am
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All I see here are some amazing folds in Cretaceous limestone, gorgeously emphasized by the snow (or the herds of swiss Polar bears on the Sichelchamm).

Well spotted! You clearly know your Schweetz.

I can see the Sichelchamm / Alvier Group from my balcony (but not today).

………and the Swiss Polar Bears you mention (Ursus Polaris Helveticus) look a bit different from the Svalbard ones (Ursus Maritimus). They are part of the Churfirsten colony and have only relatively recently migrated to the adjoining Alvier Group:
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I remember once in the Churfirsten sitting down alone to eat my lunch in the middle of a large herd of them. They just sat there and carried on ruminating, completely indifferent to my presence. Magnificent creatures!

End of the OT, fake polar bears, and back to snow, which is conspicuously absent here at the present time. I can usually see year-round snow from my house, but not in recent years.

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Re: Musk Ox's WONDERFUL WORLD OF SNOW: SNOWFACTS

Post by Telerock » Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:16 am

Are you sure that is limestone, and not dolomite (a recrystalized limestone containing magnesium). It is tue, like snow, rocks can also recrystalize.



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Re: Musk Ox's WONDERFUL WORLD OF SNOW: SNOWFACTS

Post by Musk Ox » Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:57 am

Shut up everyone, this is a ski website, not a fucking geologists' convention.


Now we will discuss CAMBER.

The principles of camber are very easy to understand.

This is a traditional Nordic ski in its uncambered, unrockered state.

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Note:

1) It has no bindings on it.
2) It has no sidecut, reverse sidecut, tapered sidecut, or snowholes.
3) There is no topsheet on it with letters or numbers or branding or images of beards.

How do we know this piece of wood is 'uncambered'?

This is easily tested.

If we mount it with cable bindings and apply pressure to the centre with both balls of the foot, the canopy will not lift up. This is desirable; basic laws of physics are not things to be fucked with.

Before a ski can be cambered, it must be 'rockered.'

This is the same ski with a traditional rocker in it, after initial tooling:

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This is another ski with 'full' rocker (strictly speaking, a number of rockers in the 1950s style).

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This is another ski with modern Nordic rocker:

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These skis appear to be unski-able.

But it is an illusion.

Strictly speaking, a ski's true 'affective edge' is about the size and weight of a human brain, being the human brain itself.

Indeed, most modern skis are cambered according to global aggregate measurements of the human brain.

It is essential, when getting skis fitted, to bring your brain to the shop, in a bag of saline solution, so that the man or underpoling woman behind the till can weigh and measure your brain to make sure that the skis you buy are absolutely the correct 'flex' according to the manufacturer's recommendations for someone of your length, experience, and intelligence. They will then smack your brain, give it a quick once-over by ironing on some temperature-appropriate glide wax, and stuff it back in your brainhole, shaking their head, so you can go skiing.

NEXT WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE TURN ITSELF.

We will be answering some fundamental questions.

"What is the fall line?"
"How do I link my short radius turns and why are they better than normal turns?"
"How do the hydrodynamic properties of aqueous lube on recarbonized ('un-dentured') poly-phrenologist plasticates affect my capacity to longitudinally surf pow if Deleuze's postulate of the 'skier without organs' is not to be reconciled with the subaltern velocity of lichenous merino base layers?"

Feel free to ask questions you would like answered.



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Re: Musk Ox's WONDERFUL WORLD OF SNOW: SNOWFACTS

Post by wabene » Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:22 am

:lol:



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Re: Musk Ox's WONDERFUL WORLD OF SNOW: SNOWFACTS

Post by mca80 » Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:34 am

Musk Ox wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:57 am
Feel free to ask questions you would like answered.
I consulted the Tractatus-Conversus-Telemarkus but found nothing about the "affect" of dropping a knee at 4km/hr while utilizing used 5w30 motor oil on my bases. Maybe I need to ski terrain other than a thousand plateaus.



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Re: Musk Ox's WONDERFUL WORLD OF SNOW: SNOWFACTS

Post by Stephen » Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:10 pm

This is fascinating information; I feel smarter and happier already!



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Re: Musk Ox's WONDERFUL WORLD OF SNOW: SNOWFACTS

Post by Manney » Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:22 pm

Go Ski



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Re: Musk Ox's WONDERFUL WORLD OF SNOW: SNOWFACTS

Post by CwmRaider » Tue Sep 05, 2023 2:08 pm

What happens when the ski with nordic rocker gets old? Does it lose rocker like it does camber?
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