Meidjo inserts, universal?

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Meidjo inserts, universal?

Post by Snowdork » Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:02 am

I have a prodeal with inwild, and want to use meidjo inserts to mount my fritschi vipecs (not tele I know) on a few pairs of skis. Are all inserts universal?

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Re: Meidjo inserts, universal?

Post by Montana St Alum » Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:42 pm

AFAIK, the inserts themselves have the same threading internally, with some minor external differences. I have used inserts supplied by Miedjo, Binding Freedom and Quiver Killer. They've all used the same thread, but the length will vary depending on the binding.



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Re: Meidjo inserts, universal?

Post by Snowdork » Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:05 pm

Awesome when you say the length will vary, you mean the screw right? Not the internal thread depth?



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Re: Meidjo inserts, universal?

Post by Montana St Alum » Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:15 pm

Snowdork wrote:
Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:05 pm
Awesome when you say the length will vary, you mean the screw right? Not the internal thread depth?
Yes, that's correct. If you go to the Binding Freedom (or quiver killer) site, I think they have screw lengths for different bindings. Even on a particular binding like the Meidjo, different positions on the binding will need different lengths due to binding plate thickness and may have different screw head designs.



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Re: Meidjo inserts, universal?

Post by leon » Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:27 pm

Internal threading on Binding Freedom and Meidjo inserts is the same M5. The external threads on Binding Freedom inserts are 5/16-18 whereas I am pretty sure external threading on Meidjo inserts is M8. The hole diameters are almost the same but you would need to use a different taps.



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Re: Meidjo inserts, universal?

Post by Stephen » Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:57 pm

If you’re interested, these two vendors have the Meidjo insert kits, which include all the necessary bolts, in stock:
https://cripplecreekbc.com/products/ins ... meidjo-2-1
https://aspinockwoods.com/shop/ols/prod ... insert-kit
I liked the Meidjo inserts because they come with all the bolts, which means I could be lazy and not have to figure out which bolts to buy.

Like @Montana St Alum said earlier, the Meidjo insert outside thread pitch (M8 / metric) is slightly different that the pitch on the two US products (5/16X18 Thread Pitch).
I bought them from Meidjo, in France, because I also needed all the insert tools.
https://inwildoutdoor.com/en/products/s ... t-tool-kit
What they sell is sort of fiddly to work with, but it does a good job of getting the inserts in straight and has a stop at the correct installation depth.

Sorry, I missed the part about Prodeal with Inwild.
Then, yeah, go for their stuff — although, for the $$ involved, there can’t be much difference in cost between Inwild and, say, Binding Fredom?
For inserts, and the tools to install, maybe the best bet is just get it all from:
https://www.bindingfreedom.com/
Then you have to figure out the bolts…
https://www.bindingfreedom.com/m-equipment/

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leon wrote:
Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:27 pm
Internal threading on Binding Freedom and Meidjo inserts is the same M5. The external threads on Binding Freedom inserts are 5/16-18 whereas I am pretty sure external threading on Meidjo inserts is M8. The hole diameters are almost the same but you would need to use a different taps.
I talked to one ski tech who said they use the same tap for both thread pitches. The inserts are short and the ski core material is a bit forgiving, so I guess it works. Ideally, match the tap to the insert threads.



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