Gear Set Up For Uphill (& Backcountry)

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metamorphosis108
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Re: Gear Set Up For Uphill (& Backcountry)

Post by metamorphosis108 » Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:00 pm

Whiteout wrote:
Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:12 pm
Meta, knowing your situation and experience more now from this and the other thread, I propose this wild idea. Get a cheap last generation alpine rental fleet ski to learn on and really experience the telemark turn in area. Delayed lead changes, monomarks, etc. It worked for me. I got some Salomon X-sceams for $50 and mounted them tele. 68 under foot, no camber, edged perfectly and turned easily. Once you have that turning on hard pack better worked in, then spring for other boards. Just an idea. Great luck!
Thanks! Doesn't sound wild to me ;)

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Re: Gear Set Up For Uphill (& Backcountry)

Post by tkarhu » Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:44 am

metamorphosis108 wrote:
Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:58 pm
If I am wanting to perfect my turns and downhill skills, wouldn't being somewhat slow with fischscales work to my advantage? Or do the fishsclaes interfere with more than the speed aspect?
How much altitude drop do your resort pistes have? If a climb is less than 100 meters vertical meters, skiing up can be more practical than skinning. By skiing up I mean same gear up and down. That could mean kicker skins, too.

On the other hand, fishscales do not typically find grip on hard snow. Thus, fiscscales might get annoying, when climbing slopes at a small local resort.

EDIT: I considered X-Screams for NNN-BC rock skis, but gave up the idea because they weight ~1500-1700 g per ski. They should be alright for telemark turns, but climbing might be inconvenient.



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Re: Gear Set Up For Uphill (& Backcountry)

Post by lilcliffy » Sun Mar 12, 2023 4:49 pm

@metamorphosis108
The convo has moved towards my thoughts on your objective-
I am thinking you should be able to get a focused ski for your local icy lift served hill- pretty cheap-
as opposed to trying to find a backcountry touring ski that will "work".

I rarely go to my local ski hill- otherwise, I would have a dedicated ski for it setup with a Telemark binding.

You might consider yet another thread focused on finding this ski and get some more participation around possible skis and bindings.
As long as it will perform on icy piste, and is tolerable climbing up hill- it should work.
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.



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Re: Gear Set Up For Uphill (& Backcountry)

Post by randoskier » Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:38 pm

tkarhu wrote:
Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:44 am
metamorphosis108 wrote:
Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:58 pm
If I am wanting to perfect my turns and downhill skills, wouldn't being somewhat slow with fischscales work to my advantage? Or do the fishsclaes interfere with more than the speed aspect?
How much altitude drop do your resort pistes have? If a climb is less than 100 meters vertical meters, skiing up can be more practical than skinning. By skiing up I mean same gear up and down. That could mean kicker skins, too.

On the other hand, fishscales do not typically find grip on hard snow. Thus, fiscscales might get annoying, when climbing slopes at a small local resort.

EDIT: I considered X-Screams for NNN-BC rock skis, but gave up the idea because they weight ~1500-1700 g per ski. They should be alright for telemark turns, but climbing might be inconvenient.
Fischer OTC scales grip big time on hard snow



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