Europe is a fucking joke

[Lhartley]

Interesting result considering the topic. The AD is fascist? That's wild that 20 percent of the population would vote like that. What makes them fascist?

[Musk Ox]

Interesting result considering the topic. The AD is fascist? That's wild that 20 percent of the population would vote like that. What makes them fascist?

The AfD is a fascist party and 20% of the Germany voting population have voted for a fascist party, yes.

OK, a fascist-adjacent party. Maybe that's more accurate.

They are a fascist-adjacent party because of people ike Björn Höcke who wants a '180° u-turn on Holocaust memory culture', because they want expel immigrants, because of their attacks on the press, their desire to limit the rights of minorities, their extreme nationalism, their links to extremist groups.

(I think they're a fascist party).

[Lhartley]

Thanks for the explanation. I can't help but wonder that maybe there's something to the 60 minutes article if 30 percent of the population is voting center right and an additional 20 percent voting far right (blowback). Maybe the 60 minutes article was a form of election influence even. Foreign interference is quite the subject right now in my parts

What happens the popular vote swings far right? How does compelled speech then play out? Should there still be state interference if a far right party holds influence? Maybe free speech laws exist in. Constitutions for a reason so that no matter who is in charge, free speech is allowed. Idk, just curious. Interesting topic considering trends in democracy as of late

[mca80]

I also want to say that when I go on to this forum, which is my favourite place on the internet, and see a thread started by someone in North America called 'Europe is a fucking joke', and read that the place I live is an 'Orwellian pussy nightmare', it makes me really, really sad and worried.

Not just because it isn't true. The anger is so completely unnecessary. The interpretation of what's going on here is so incredibly at odds with what's reality. I don't know how long it'll be before North Americans are going to be on the internet in places like this saying outright 'Europe is the enemy'. Everyone thinks they're immune from propaganda. It's so fucking weird seeing English-speaking people writing and thinking like this.

This post is useless and pointless and will not change anyone's mind and will only serve to make other people angry.

I think you should all come skiing in Europe.

Pot and kettle, faggot.

[mca80]

Please get your news from somewhere that reflects basic reality.

Came straight from the horse's mouth, you jackass. See the video above if you have half a brain and can figure out how to watch it.

I have no idea why you resorted straight to insults.

Here is the World Freedom Index.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/count ... by-country

Thirteen of the 20 freest countries in the world are European.

I live in Europe.

You have taken one instance of Germany's laws prohibiting very specific things after Germany killed some 6,000,000 Jews and maybe 1,000,000 others, and tried to tell me, a European, living in Europe, that I live in an 'Orwellian pussy nightmare'.

And you must come back to reality, and get your news from a source that reflects the way the world actually is.

Insults because you responded with pretentious condescension.

That index is a joke.

It's no surprise someone so deeply involved in the matrix couldn't see what is happening before their own eyes, because their eyes only see the deliberate lie presented them. And just like 1984, you are going to believe you are free and the enemies like Russia, and now I guess America, et al, are totalitarian, while the stranglehold tightens over your own nation's minds. Not just Europe, but you are a fucking joke man.

[mca80]

I find Vance's speech arrogant and ignorant and preaching the authoritarian right wing agenda of his administration. Clear as day.

"Sentiment on the current administration in the U.S. is extremely negative generally."
As it is here in the States for a significant portion of the population. This has in effect been a coup, laws no longer holding, fueled by greed and desire for vengeance. It's not pretty. While the voices of those who share that mentality are loud, there is a rising tide of condemnation at the political, social, and legal levels.
This administration does betrays and belittles our allies, embraces Putin, has a 100% unelected by anybody millionaire firing thousands of government employees, openly lying and spreading disinformation, and openly, again, actively backing the far right extremist group in Germany that Vance admonished the European council about in that video when he made comments about "you guys just don't like anyone expressing a different point of view than your own".
Meanwhile, not a thing is being done to actually help the people. Slash and burn, drill baby drill, fuck climate change... fuck everything and everyone that doesn't serve me.
Simply expressing my perspective. You are certainly entitled to yours, whatever that be.

A coup lol. My perspective is you are retarded.

[phoenix]

Of course. Civil as always.

[mca80]

Of course. Civil as always.

As civil as you folk have been. I'm past offering to civility to the likes of you. Progressive types deserve a far worse fate after wanting to lock people in camps who refused their medical experiments, among other things.

[wooley12]

You sound so.....presidential.

When JFK was the first president to not wear a fedora, the sales of fedoras cratered. Fact.

[mca80]

You sound so.....presidential.

When JFK was the first president to not wear a fedora, the sales of fedoras cratered. Fact.

Yawn. I wish you were smarter so you could understand how dumb you sound.

For @Musk Ox to claim questioning Germany's lack of free speech is an insult to Jews and the Holocaust is entertaining at best, absolutely disgusting at worst, especially given all the progressives' likening Trump to Hitler. And the fact that fascism and national socialism were both essentially left wing political movements.

Meanwhile in Copenhagen they're giving standing ovations to Nazis from Azov battallion.

But I guess this is the kind of free speech welcome in Denmark, Holocaust notwithstanding (gotta protect some free speech if not all of it):

In September 2014, a Danish imam, Mohamad Al-Khaled Samha, at a mosque run by The Islamic Society in Denmark, said in a filmed lecture that the Jews are the "offspring of apes and pigs".[28] In July 2014 Al-Khaled had stated “Oh Allah, destroy the Zionist Jews. They are no challenge for you. Count them and kill them to the very last one. Don’t spare a single one of them.”[29]

And nothing Orwellian here, also in Denmark:

"school officials advised parents not to allow their children to wear Jewish religious symbols in public as a result of rising reports of antisemitic harassment in Denmark.[26]"

Since my sources are "detached from reality" I give you one that truly is, the AP (who incidentally has in true 1984 fashion mandated replacing a whole slew of words and phrases with woke equivalents):

"Denmark records highest number of antisemitic incidents since WWII, part of a grim European trend"

This bozo @Musk Ox responds to my original post insulting me repeatedly in a passive-aggrsssive manner full of condescension, and when I respond with raw aggression (I don't play his game) he in typical Leftist fashion plays victim. Nothing but fucking lies, gaslighting and hypocrisy from these people. I only hope they get defeated before their technofacsism infects even greater numbers.