breathable shell jacket? is there one that lets sweat out but keeps you dry

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Re: breathable shell jacket? is there one that lets sweat out but keeps you dry

Post by The GCW » Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:44 pm

By extension, This from the world of road cycling may relate:

There is a certain pleasure to be found in kitting up perfectly for the day’s ride (ski). We deliberate over the temperature, the wind, the likelihood of rain. We lay out our options like a Valet for his nobleman, we may even take a step outside and reconsider our choices. Returning from the ride (ski) many hours later, we allow a wry smile to creep across our faces in the knowledge that we nailed our kit today.

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Re: breathable shell jacket? is there one that lets sweat out but keeps you dry

Post by bgregoire » Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:48 pm

Rodbelan wrote:
Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:20 pm
Yeah, in a kayak, I guess you choose the least poisonous option. Still, this is crap. And expensive too. Now, I usually wear a neoprene tuilik with neoprene long john. If it's good for greenlanders, it should be good for me.
I'm blessed (or cursed) by having too much gear. I keep two pieces of 3-ply goretex. One is a full body Kokatat drysuit for whitewater running. Neoprene just does not deliver when you spend your day in water at near 0C air temp. As a sweaty guy, I spend my day complaining about how moist in gets in my kit, but its better than hypothermia.

The other piece I own is an ArcTeryx Theta jaclet. Its awesome. I would never have paid full price for it. I don't use it for nordic skiing or any high intensity sport, but its awesome for the occasional day I go resort skiing (wind protection) and as a rain jacket. That's what is it, an UBER expensive windjacket/rainjacket.

By the way, I also have a two-ply OR Mountain Cap. I like it too because its bomber windproof and covers my ears and protects my eyes from the sun. Its relatively warm because its windproof. Problem is, I feel kinda icky in it sometimes because it just doesnt breathe that well. A good wool beanie is great for keeping warm, but I have yet to find one that protects from the wind sufficiently (i like to go fast). So yeah, I often swap between these two pieces of head "protection".
(kinda like the one in the link here: https://mountainequipment.com/products/ ... 0904344611)
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Re: breathable shell jacket? is there one that lets sweat out but keeps you dry

Post by fisheater » Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:00 pm

I wear a Drysuit paddling my canoe on the Great Lakes. Best fishing is spring and fall, as I try to stay about 3 miles or less from shore. Water is cold. Things can go wrong. Wind can come on quick.
I don’t wear a drysuit to be comfortable.



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Re: breathable shell jacket? is there one that lets sweat out but keeps you dry

Post by Leo Tasker » Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:48 am

bgregoire wrote:
Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:48 pm

By the way, I also have a two-ply OR Mountain Cap. I like it too because its bomber windproof and covers my ears and protects my eyes from the sun. Its relatively warm because its windproof. Problem is, I feel kinda icky in it sometimes because it just doesnt breathe that well. A good wool beanie is great for keeping warm, but I have yet to find one that protects from the wind sufficiently (i like to go fast). So yeah, I often swap between these two pieces of head "protection".
(kinda like the one in the link here: https://mountainequipment.com/products/ ... 0904344611)
@bgregoire Ben, have you seen the Fjallraven Singi cap? Basically the Lowe Alpine style mountain cap but in the G1000 polycotton fabric. Not used one myself, but should be a bit less sweaty than the waterproof type!
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Re: breathable shell jacket? is there one that lets sweat out but keeps you dry

Post by bgregoire » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:30 am

Leo Tasker wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:48 am
@bgregoire Ben, have you seen the Fjallraven Singi cap? Basically the Lowe Alpine style mountain cap but in the G1000 polycotton fabric. Not used one myself, but should be a bit less sweaty than the waterproof type!
Cheers, Leo
Thanks for the tip. You must be thinking about this one:

https://www.fjallraven.com/eu/en-gb/wom ... 3450076641

Look great to me. Out of stock. I will keep my eyes open for one.

There is this one too:

https://www.fjallraven.com/eu/en-gb/men ... 3450548049

Perhaps too hot for my regular needs. Plus that large star logo on the forehead looks terrible. I don't like feeling like a walking advertizement!
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Re: breathable shell jacket? is there one that lets sweat out but keeps you dry

Post by Rodbelan » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:50 am

I meant to say that Gtex sort of makes sens in the paddling world... not in the skiing world (in my book at least)

I agree Fish; we don't wear dry suit for comfort. Like Ben's saying whitewater + dry suit = pertinence...

Since I am (was) into greenland kayaking, neoprene makes (made) sense.

Voilà.
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Re: breathable shell jacket? is there one that lets sweat out but keeps you dry

Post by Eärendil » Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:03 pm

As some already have said , in cold temperatures heavier knit cotton anoraks work well balancing wind resistance and moisture management. I prefer to have wool baselayer and, if needed microfleece midlayer. For some reason I get more cold flashes with synthetics baselayer.

Fjällräven and other polyester/cotton jackets are fine, but there is something about an old school full cotton anorak that just feels right when backcountry skiing.
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Re: breathable shell jacket? is there one that lets sweat out but keeps you dry

Post by Woodserson » Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:27 pm

Eärendil wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:03 pm
As some already have said , in cold temperatures heavier knit cotton anoraks work well balancing wind resistance and moisture management. I prefer to have wool baselayer and, if needed microfleece midlayer. For some reason I get more cold flashes with synthetics baselayer.

Fjällräven and other polyester/cotton jackets are fine, but there is something about an old school full cotton anorak that just feels right when backcountry skiing.

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//Rickard//
But where do you find such an item!?



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Re: breathable shell jacket? is there one that lets sweat out but keeps you dry

Post by fisheater » Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:31 pm

I don’t know Woods, but it is cool!
Hey Rickard, are those skiing huts???



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Re: breathable shell jacket? is there one that lets sweat out but keeps you dry

Post by fisheater » Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:34 pm

Woodserson wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:27 pm
Eärendil wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:03 pm
As some already have said , in cold temperatures heavier knit cotton anoraks work well balancing wind resistance and moisture management. I prefer to have wool baselayer and, if needed microfleece midlayer. For some reason I get more cold flashes with synthetics baselayer.

Fjällräven and other polyester/cotton jackets are fine, but there is something about an old school full cotton anorak that just feels right when backcountry skiing.

0CCCAECA-C8AF-4519-ABA1-9CC8ABADC736.jpeg

//Rickard//
But where do you find such an item!?
Woods how about this?

https://www.etsy.com/listing/903131005/ ... ic=1&pro=1



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