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...A setup of Altai Kom's @ 174cm with NNN-BC Fischer Transnordics has my attention...
Just a caution: hopefully others who have tried it will respond, but you might be under-powering a 100 underfoot ski, especially if conditions get variable, with NNN-BC (even with Transnordics). I have not tried it, so I might be wrong.
It's certainly condition dependent, and he has two other pairs of skis to fall back on when it gets firm. But for the soft and deep snow the lighter boot should be fine, especially if you aren't looking for a lot of downhill precision.
Gt, do you think the e99 is a better trail breaking ski than the USGI or the Ingstad?
I now realize that I want to do a few things and none of them overlap. I have a small quiver, so this should have been obvious! Some of the recs so far are:
Steep and Deep (not the route in my photo) Voile V6 (Better powder, steep, trees)
Voile hyper vector (better touring)
Altai Kom
Mild Steep/Mild Deep Go for longer skis like
E99 (Transnordic 66)
Asnes Falketind XPlore
Asnes Ingstad
Fischer S-Bound 112
A few more skis were suggested to me by my local shops with a focus more on resort uphilling (groomed runs and powder on top of groomed runs, and the idea that you go all the way up and then all the way down), which in a way is the type of skiing I hope to do more of.
Does anyone have experience with these skis in an uphilling context?
It's tough, as I can't really demo any of these in my area right now. All are a bit too specialized.
And I'm getting boot fit this weekend, so all is very TBD in that area. I have Alaska's but something is off for me right now so I'll probably be stepping up to a new hard boot of some kind. Maybe Tele, maybe AT, depending on the setup and boot fitter recs.
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Al, pretty sure gramps thinks e99s can do anything. cold fusion? room temperature superconductors? faster than light travel? e99 can do it.
Dude, one of these days, you’re going to be gramps and I can just about guarantee that the future young wiper snappers that are taking our world to hell in a hand basket will not think you’re as hip as you think you might be. Try and remember that “What goes around comes around.”
Peace out…
Al, pretty sure gramps thinks e99s can do anything. cold fusion? room temperature superconductors? faster than light travel? e99 can do it.
Dude, one of these days, you’re going to be gramps and I can just about guarantee that the future young wiper snappers that are taking our world to hell in a hand basket will not think you’re as hip as you think you might be. Try and remember that “What goes around comes around.”
Peace out…
LOL. I AM old as hell, just really immature. Now get off my lawn.
@esnichols1
Just so you get another opinion. The FT Xplore will easily out kick and glide the S-112, it is a better downhill ski as well. I really like it, however I would not put it in the downhill class of a Vector or a ski of that class. At least when your downhill is steep and deep. The S-112 has good scales, but I could get better grip and glide with wax after the first couple times playing with wax. After a few years, there is no comparison.
The benefits of waxless are around 32 degrees and above. If you are climbing steep enough to need skins you can’t use soft kick wax or klister. The solution on a waxable ski is an X-skin.
I have a waxable ski that is 86 mm underfoot. It serves my steep and deep well. If I decided to go to a Vector, I would probably get scales. 86 mm underfoot isn’t too much to wax, but it’s getting close.
Last year I had Kom's in 174 and Voile Objective BC's in 178.
Liked both -- skied both off piste, yo-yo'ing for turns -- but ultimately felt they were both too much ski for me.
Replaced them this year. Now I'm on V6 BC in 163, and Kom in 162.
Skied the V6's a bunch -- never with skins, but always using the traction pattern to climb everything we descend. Freaking love these skis. They're really, really turny, and yet they float really nice in knee to thigh deep snow.
I rarely ski anything above 30*. I've been backcountry skiing a long time, and just don't have any interest in effing around with stuff that can slide. I've lost friends and have too many friends with near-miss stories to count. The wife and I cap it at 30*.
Got the Kom's because my wife has had hers for two seasons, and I had a bit of FOMO. Wanted to try them side by side/back to back with the V6's since on paper they are so similar.
Alas since they've arrived we haven't gotten diddly for new snow, and our snowpack has transitioned into spring melt/freeze. So I won't likely be able to compare them until next season.
But the V6 BC's are the best money I spent this year, and put a smile on my face every time I ski 'em.
I rarely ski anything above 30*. I've been backcountry skiing a long time, and just don't have any interest in effing around with stuff that can slide. I've lost friends and have too many friends with near-miss stories to count. The wife and I cap it at 30*.
Your use case sounds somewhat similar to me. I want to keep exploring and stay out of avi terrain (though I have taken classes and plan on taking more, mostly to avoid it).
I'm thinking more and more though that I'll use these skis for resort uphilling. Mitigate some of the BC risks from steeper terrain. I'm fortunate to have a lot of good options near me, including a few resorts that allow it during the day,
Were you considering any other skis when you got the V6s?
I rarely ski anything above 30*. I've been backcountry skiing a long time, and just don't have any interest in effing around with stuff that can slide. I've lost friends and have too many friends with near-miss stories to count. The wife and I cap it at 30*.
Were you considering any other skis when you got the V6s?
All of the Voile BC skis were on the table.
The V6's seemed like the most versatile for my needs. I love 'em.
The V6's seemed like the most versatile for my needs. I love 'em.
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Well, that's good to hear! I just received a pair of V6 BC 173cm a few days ago. There's a rumor of 2"+ overnight in our area. Hardly qualifies as a powder day but I'm going to have to give them a run tomorrow. What's your impression of the V6 in firmer conditions?
