Strong double camber and metal edges?
- Spiny Norman
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Strong double camber and metal edges?
HUnh! What are they good for? Say it again....
I picked up a pair of NOS Karhu Pinnacles waxless, 70/60/65, full double camber. Much more camber than I remember on my pair from 30+ years ago. And full metal edges.
I wasn't a fan of mine but I skied them till they broke. I am a shuffler on xcd gear.
Anyone use a ski like this? What strengths does a ski like this have?
Cheers
I picked up a pair of NOS Karhu Pinnacles waxless, 70/60/65, full double camber. Much more camber than I remember on my pair from 30+ years ago. And full metal edges.
I wasn't a fan of mine but I skied them till they broke. I am a shuffler on xcd gear.
Anyone use a ski like this? What strengths does a ski like this have?
Cheers
- wabene
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Re: Strong double camber and metal edges?
My only fear with Karhu skis is that some had a foam core which would not age well. If yours have a strong camber that is a good sign. Man for whatever reason I like the look of Karhu skis and after seeing a couple of versions of the Pinnacle, sell them to me! If those are the side cut dimensions of the ski it falls into the XCD GT, Eon, M62 class of ski. Fast enough to cover some ground, but still able to make some nice turns (unless that camber is truly double camber). What length did you get and what do you weigh?Spiny Norman wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:27 amHUnh! What are they good for? Say it again....
I picked up a pair of NOS Karhu Pinnacles waxless, 70/60/65, full double camber. Much more camber than I remember on my pair from 30+ years ago. And full metal edges.
I wasn't a fan of mine but I skied them till they broke. I am a shuffler on xcd gear.
Anyone use a ski like this? What strengths does a ski like this have?
Cheers
- lilcliffy
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Re: Strong double camber and metal edges?
To quote Dave Mann- "they fly on the flats":
https://web.archive.org/web/20151002150 ... -skis.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20151002150 ... -skis.html
Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill.
- Spiny Norman
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Re: Strong double camber and metal edges?
They probably do fly on the flats but you don't need metal edges for that. And double camber on the up and down?
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Re: Strong double camber and metal edges?
Metal edges really help skis track on ungroomed, off camber, and uneven terrain. Even more so when you add the hills and twisty nature on the trails I prefer. So while I need the metal edged for the twisty downhills, I would want to be without metal edges on the uneven, and off camber flatter parts of the trail. I prefer non-groomed snow.
- Spiny Norman
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Re: Strong double camber and metal edges?
FE, do you have good k&g technigue? Fairly flatish trails?
here, in scenic central NH, I always seem to be going up or down. I need metal edges on the snow I shuffle along on.
Its the combination of really big camber with widish skis and metal edges that confound me.
My version of the Pinnacle ski had single camber (more than alpine) and I used them for years.
here, in scenic central NH, I always seem to be going up or down. I need metal edges on the snow I shuffle along on.
Its the combination of really big camber with widish skis and metal edges that confound me.
My version of the Pinnacle ski had single camber (more than alpine) and I used them for years.
- fisheater
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Re: Strong double camber and metal edges?
SN, the only trails I ski are rolling glacial moraine hiking trails. Most are really fun trails for mountain bikes. I have no interest in flat trails.
I am an untrained in Nordic technique. However, I don’t get passed on trails. Although I don’t ski trails favored by trained Nordic skiers.
I agree with you, I don’t see the benefit of wide highly cambered skis.
The purpose of my comment was I find metal edges to aid in tracking when the trail surface is hard and off camber, when I may weight an edge on the gliding ski to track straight.
I am an untrained in Nordic technique. However, I don’t get passed on trails. Although I don’t ski trails favored by trained Nordic skiers.
I agree with you, I don’t see the benefit of wide highly cambered skis.
The purpose of my comment was I find metal edges to aid in tracking when the trail surface is hard and off camber, when I may weight an edge on the gliding ski to track straight.
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Re: Strong double camber and metal edges?
Fisheater- I’ve been happily surprised by Gammes performance on single-track trails…the 210’s can be a bit unwieldy in some situations and I’ve found myself wondering if something a bit shorter would be the ticket.
- fisheater
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Re: Strong double camber and metal edges?
Inspiredcapers, I’m sure your trails in BC can get more interesting than mine. Maybe a Nansen might be the ticket? I’ve seen @mca80 turn his his Nansen and the ski bends, however I believe he thinks they are a little slow. While not fast, I find the Falketind Xplore to offer acceptable performance for a capable downhill turning ski.
I have a Gamme and an FTX, I would like a Nansen, but I can’t justify it for my skiing. If I was in BC, maybe?
I have a Gamme and an FTX, I would like a Nansen, but I can’t justify it for my skiing. If I was in BC, maybe?
- Inspiredcapers
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Re: Strong double camber and metal edges?
Wonder if anyone is interested in trading a Nansen for a Gamme…