De-tune tips and tails or not

[Yvette]

Asking for a friend who is an expert skier and just bought a pair of Summit Cone Pariah skis. Planning to use them both on-piste and backcountry skiing, mostly in New England.
Do you de-tune your skis or not? Either way, what is your reasoning?
TIA.

[phoenix]

I have always detuned tips and tails (exception would be if they're detuned by the manufacturer). I go with a longer de-tune on the tips, around 5'" give or take. Reduces likelihood of hooking and edge, and smoother release at the finish.

[Montana St Alum]

It's personal preference, of course. I never detune my skis. IME, it reduces the playfulness of the ski, and I don't want to reduce the "turniness" of the ski - sometimes I want them to hook.

I've gotten my skis back from tuners with the tips and tails detuned and have had to restore them.
It's a lot easier to detune skis than it is to return that detuned edge, so I'd start out with the factory tune. If they're too turny you can easily detune them. If you detune them and then decide to resharpen them, that's a real PITA!

[fisheater]

I used to be in the not detuning camp. I am now in ski and see camp. When I detune it’s just a couple of wipes with a Scotch Brite pad. As MSU states, it’s easier to detune than it is to restore that edge.
On my Pariah’s a quick check reveals I detuned the upturned portions of the tip and tail. No running (edging) surfaces have been detuned. FWIW, I mounted my Pariah boot center on the boot center line on the ski. Skiing with Transit TTS and F1 Race boots. I know that is supposed to be a little light for the resort, but I wanted to experiment with both the boot and the binding. Let me know how you like the Pariah @Yvette . I really like the ski, but haven’t read many positive reviews except on Fey’s website. Who knows, maybe I just adapt to skis? I don’t know, I know of skis I have skied and thought little of, that are very popular.
I do know the most important thing is to realize how blessed we are to be able to have the time,money, and ability to be able to go out and ski!

[phoenix]

"On my Pariah’s a quick check reveals I detuned the upturned portions of the tip and tail. No running (edging) surfaces have been detuned"

Fully agree on this point; my experience has been on "traditional" flat skis until pretty recently.

[Montana St Alum]

I do know the most important thing is to realize how blessed we are to be able to have the time,money, and ability to be able to go out and ski!

So true.

[blitzskier]

I used to be in the not detuning camp. I am now in ski and see camp. When I detune it’s just a couple of wipes with a Scotch Brite pad. As MSU states, it’s easier to detune than it is to restore that edge.
On my Pariah’s a quick check reveals I detuned the upturned portions of the tip and tail. No running (edging) surfaces have been detuned. FWIW, I mounted my Pariah boot center on the boot center line on the ski. Skiing with Transit TTS and F1 Race boots. I know that is supposed to be a little light for the resort, but I wanted to experiment with both the boot and the binding. Let me know how you like the Pariah @Yvette . I really like the ski, but haven’t read many positive reviews except on Fey’s website. Who knows, maybe I just adapt to skis? I don’t know, I know of skis I have skied and thought little of, that are very popular.
I do know the most important thing is to realize how blessed we are to be able to have the time,money, and ability to be able to go out and ski!

that sounds like level headed advice.

[lilcliffy]

I use gummy stones- currently have these ones:
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[phoenix]

"I use gummy stones"
Me too.