lead change.. getting to the in fall line?

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Re: lead change.. getting to the in fall line?

Post by connyro » Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:35 am

Manney wrote:
Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:26 am
Distort? Just posted what you wrote… lol
You conveniently omitted the sentence right before your quote which qualifies the statement. That qualifies as distorting.

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Re: lead change.. getting to the in fall line?

Post by Manney » Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:36 am

lowangle al wrote:
Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:29 am
"If you don't go you won't know" Surface conditions are sometimes hard to predict in the bc. They can change daily even with no new snow, sometimes for the better.

As far as this thread, I assumed the OP was resort skiing and wasn't concerned with the conditions.
You might be right… but asking the Q isn’t a bad idea… because conditions DO matter.
connyro wrote:
Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:22 am
Weather or conditions don't dictate tele vs alpine.
Unless you’re connyro.
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Re: lead change.. getting to the in fall line?

Post by connyro » Thu Apr 27, 2023 12:02 pm

Manney wrote:
Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:26 am

Yer sayin that you don’t match gear, technique to conditions… lol.
Now you're getting it, expert! I use a light tele setup for xcd and a medium tele setup for bc/tour for turns and a heavy tele setup for resort/groomers.



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Re: lead change.. getting to the in fall line?

Post by Manney » Thu Apr 27, 2023 12:12 pm

connyro wrote:
Thu Apr 27, 2023 12:02 pm
Manney wrote:
Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:26 am

Yer sayin that you don’t match gear, technique to conditions… lol.
Now you're getting it, expert! I use a light tele setup for xcd and a medium tele setup for bc/tour for turns and a heavy tele setup for resort/groomers.
How do you decide? LOL
connyro wrote:
Thu Apr 27, 2023 8:37 am
I don't look at weather/snow conditions and think "ooh, tele turns aren't going to work today." I just grab my gear and go.
connyro wrote:
Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:22 am
Weather or conditions don't dictate tele vs alpine.
LOL…snort… LOL

Not claiming to be an expert. Just questioning stupid comments like yours.
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Re: lead change.. getting to the in fall line?

Post by connyro » Thu Apr 27, 2023 12:20 pm

Manney wrote:
Thu Apr 27, 2023 12:12 pm
connyro wrote:
Thu Apr 27, 2023 12:02 pm
Manney wrote:
Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:26 am

Yer sayin that you don’t match gear, technique to conditions… lol.
Now you're getting it, expert! I use a light tele setup for xcd and a medium tele setup for bc/tour for turns and a heavy tele setup for resort/groomers.
How do you decide? LOL
connyro wrote:
Thu Apr 27, 2023 8:37 am
I don't look at weather/snow conditions and think "ooh, tele turns aren't going to work today." I just grab my gear and go.
connyro wrote:
Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:22 am
Weather or conditions don't dictate tele vs alpine.
LOL…snort… LOL

Not claiming to be an expert. Just questioning stupid comments like yours.
Either you're dense or ignorant. or both. I decide based on many factors but mostly based on what I want to do that day. How is this so difficult for you?



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Re: lead change.. getting to the in fall line?

Post by Manney » Thu Apr 27, 2023 1:33 pm

It was your post… don’t blame me if you think it sounds better when you write it than when I quote it. Snort… LOL
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Re: lead change.. getting to the in fall line?

Post by mca80 » Thu Apr 27, 2023 3:16 pm

connyro wrote:
Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:45 am
mca80 wrote:
Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:35 am
connyro wrote:
Thu Apr 27, 2023 8:37 am

Telemark is a method for turning freeheel skis. It works in any reasonable type of snow or conditions. I don't look at weather/snow conditions and think "ooh, tele turns aren't going to work today." I just grab my gear and go.
If you've got terrible breakable crust out there you still just grab your gear and go out for turns?



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Re: lead change.. getting to the in fall line?

Post by mca80 » Thu Apr 27, 2023 3:19 pm

connyro wrote:
Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:22 am
Manney wrote:
Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:05 am
connyro wrote:
Thu Apr 27, 2023 8:37 am
I don't look at weather/snow conditions and think "ooh, tele turns aren't going to work today." I just grab my gear and go.
Really? You don’t look at weather (temperature, freezing level)… snow conditions… to make a go-no go decision? In the UP?. Wow… I’m doing it all wrong.
Nice try to distort. Weather or conditions don't dictate tele vs alpine. If conditions suck, I won't ski. If conditions are reasonable, I'll ski tele 100% of the time. Does that help clear things up?
No really. There are conditions that aren't ideal for any type of downhill which are ok for straight up xc or touring. Ergo my question. And "reasonable snow" is vague. You're proving yourself an ignorant, arrogant ass though.

That said, Manney's statement "Rather have 6-10 good opportunities than “shaking it” on some walking/snowshoe/fat bike trail during the season" seems off base for around here. Yes, there are days when the snow is bad. But in the UP backcountry there are good ski conditons for 50 to 100 days per season.



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Re: lead change.. getting to the in fall line?

Post by Manney » Thu Apr 27, 2023 3:33 pm

Wasn’t specifically talking about the UP…. Mostly about regions that run hot and cold. This year in the UP was a little weird at times though. Happens… as you say, that’s the time to roll with it and switch things up.
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Re: lead change.. getting to the in fall line?

Post by connyro » Thu Apr 27, 2023 3:36 pm

mca80 wrote:
Thu Apr 27, 2023 3:19 pm

No really. There are conditions that aren't ideal for any type of downhill which are ok for straight up xc or touring. Ergo my question. And "reasonable snow" is vague. You're proving yourself an ignorant, arrogant ass though.
Sigh. The discussion in this thread is about telemark turns, not xc skiing. If you'd like to discuss that topic, maybe start a thread about xc skiing and conditions.



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